Lateral spacing - current technology



Started March 7, 2017 at 03:21 pm by @Kagay in Eagle Ford Shale

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Kagay
03/07/17 03:21:30PM
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What is the production optimized lateral spacing range now in the EF? Our operator is proposing to increase the number of wells from the original plats that appears to reduce that spacing from about 500' to about 400'. (along with creating CULs) And, or, maybe there is also some vertical staggering that I am not aware of as yet. Is edge distance from lease boundaries something that operators can adjust (was/is 300'), or is that set in stone?

Now that drilling appears to be firing back up, I am interested in hearing what others are seeing in this regard.

Carlton Cross
03/07/17 04:39:20PM @carlton-cross:

We currently have one active well in our unit. In discussing additional drilling with our operator,  I was told there were 3 and perhaps 4 additional wells to be drilled. Our unit is approximately 3,558' wide. If 4 additional wells are drilled, that would set our spacing right at 593', if it is done on an equal division basis and allowing for setbacks on either side.

Obviously the spacing will vary according to conditions from unit to unit. For example, we were also told that our active well is located in a sweet spot. That being the case, I would think that spacing would be planned as close as possible. If I remember correctly, our operator also said they were going to fill in additional wells across the sweet spot, spaced every 500'. Many parameters can effect that planning, such as what kind of well will #2 be? If #2 doesn't perform up to expectation, it doesn't seem likely we would see additional spacing that close.

We just hope to have the additional wells drilled sometime in our lifetime! If not, the kids are sure going to enjoy it.


Kagay
03/10/17 12:02:32PM @kagay:

Oops, I was overestimating spacing. New plat shows even more wells and close to 300' spacing. OMG. The edge distance appears to be cut in half also - maybe 150'. What county are you in Carlton-Cross? This is LaSalle County. 

I am also interested to hear how fracking staging and charge placement may have changed since 2013. I understand we had 16 stages in the mile long laterals that year. I of course do not know exactly how the cluster spacing, number of charges per foot, up/down/around directioning if any, were set, etc., but find it all of interest in understanding what the operators are trying to accomplish, or rather, how they're trying to accomplish it. (other than the obvious - most bang for the buck)

Mark, you out there? I believe you schooled me a bit the last go around. You or others care to update me on these preferred methods for comparison to 2013 technology? (generally of course; as Carlton-Cross mentions, I am sure it changes from unit to unit, operator to operator, county to county...)

If I haven't posed enough questions, here is another - Mark mentioned in 2014 an average "take" of about 4%-5% of the oil in place, with overachieving operators obtaining up to 8%. In 2017, has 8% become more the norm in the EF with methods involving all of the above (and others I am not aware of)?

Thanks in advance to all for info!
Kagay, et al.


Crackerjack
03/10/17 06:19:19PM @crackerjack:

Kagay, I know there are a number of wells in south part of Gonzales county that have laterals that are right at 300 feet apart.  I believe if the operator controls both sides of a unit border, they can put a lateral within about 150' of the unit border.

I know of some wells drilled in 2013 where they used about 25-35 frack stages in a 5000' lateral.  

Then in 2016 some adjacent wells were fracked with only 12-13 stages in a 5000' lateral.  I don't know why the change or if there were other changes such as more perfs or more sand.  Maybe someone else can expound on that aspect.


Carlton Cross
03/11/17 10:27:21AM @carlton-cross:

We are in Wilson. Well choke size is another considerable factor in how wells are spaced and operated. Our operator is Hunt and they have a conservative philosophy regarding choke size. That also seems to apply to their engineering regarding well spacing. Setting the choke too large produces great looking ROI on the operators balance sheet, but at the cost of long term production. EOG, for example, is one who is known for aggressive choke sizing. The way Hunt explained it to me is by being more conservative with choke size, EF wells will have a run of 20 years or more. Taking too much initially doesn't mean you get it all very quickly, it actually causes much of what could be pumped more slowly over time to not be recovered ever.

There's a famous Texas oil patch story in regard to choke size. You can read about it in the book The Big Rich, which details the history of the Texas "Big Four" operators (one of which was Hunt). The story of Glenn McCarthy, though not one of the big four, is detailed in the book. He was the inspiration for the character Jett Rink in the movie Giant. He discovered the "Eagle Ford" of his day and being greatly strapped for cash, squandered multiple millions (billions in today's money) by running his wells wide open to gain a quick return. It's one of the greatest tales of squandering resources in the history of American business. 

If you haven't read the book, it's an outstanding education on Texas oil. 


Eli
03/11/17 09:26:42AM @eli:

I know what operators are claiming for lateral spacings is down to 300' apart in some areas,  600' apart in the dry gas portion of the EF,  however,  we have 6 wells that suffered from frac hits by offset operators,  and their laterals were more than 1320' away,  still impacted our wells negatively,  "killing" 4 of them !   I am not aware of what can be done to effectively protect a producing lateral when a frac is conducted nearby,  and would be interested to hear what operators do in cases where they want to pack the laterals so close together.

 


Kagay
03/18/17 01:07:37PM @kagay:

Carlton - yes, I am pretty sure we were being choked back as well. (actually, I believe the landman confirmed it at one point) As you mention, I have considered that a good thing from a longevity standpoint from what all have told me. (producing a nice smooth declining production curve for four years so far with only some maintenance hickups here and there)

Eli - distressing news on the killed wells. Sounds like there is much that we (casually, or not so casually involved owners) do not know about the "how to" on multiple laterals. The operator has said that the existing producer will be "shut in" during work on the new wells - not sure if that is during drilling and fracking, or just during fracking. I wonder if the adjacent work done by other operators near your well was done in other than "shut in" conditions for yours, and therefore had more of a negative effect.

I am really curious how the fracking order will occur on the new laterals. The operator has confirmed that all the wells will be drilled at once, and then all the fracking will be done.

I saw all the equipment out there for fracking on our first go around. I can't imagine the logistics on multiple fracs on the same pad. Four times the equipment is hard to imagine fitting on those pads. (some redundancy though probably)

Perhaps this has something to do with why they are doing all this from two pads at opposite ends of the two mile long CULs. (a couple of short laterals on both leases is another reason I am sure) Or, maybe it also has something to do with the science of fracturing the formation optimally.

What is the order of fracking as they are doing this mammoth operation - working simultaneously from opposite ends? Do all the first stages at once, then ready for all the second stages, and then ready/aim/fire on all seven laterals for the second stage, and so on?

There are leases in our area with long (1.5 mile +/-) multiple laterals that started producing at the same time in 2013/2014, and from RRC data appear to be very productive, so I know somebody knows how this operation has been successfully done. I can only assume that the science has evolved from 2013 to something quite different. (or not, if that is - whatever "that" is - still the best order/method)

Can someone share the details of the technology of fracking multiple adjacent laterals with us?


Rockman
03/18/17 06:42:56PM @rockman:

Spacing between laterals in the same landing zone is getting as close as 250' to 300'. The efffectiveness of having laterals this close together without negatively impacting each other is tied to a lot of variables including how the wells are being frac'd and the actual reservoir characteristics and quality.


Kagay
03/19/17 12:33:25AM @kagay:

Can you share any of those fracking details? What changes in regard to fracking in multiple lateral circumstances such as these from location to location? Too numerous to explain? Or, can you point me to an online description of various methods being used currently?


Rockman
03/19/17 12:08:29PM @rockman:

In general, the combination of shorter frac stages, variable perf clusters per stage, higher proppant concentrations, the "mix" of various proppant sizes and concentrations (especially resin coated proppant in tail of stage) and diverter applications (in my opinion - one of the biggest application changes) have allowed for a much more effective and locally extensive stimulated rock volume than in earlier years.

Cabot's recent presentation touched on the impact of diverter application on their recent Eagle Ford completions. This has been seen by many other operators - not just in the EF but all in the Permian Basin.

Companies like Pioneer in the Permian are working on their 4th or 5th evolution of frac stimulation where they continually tweak what they are doing to improve EUR's and reduce lateral spacing


Kagay
03/19/17 01:11:43PM @kagay:

Thanks rockman - I appreciate the info - am googling in between replying - not finding the Cabot presentation (at least not access to it), but starting to get into a Halliburton description of diverter agents. Going to need to do some studying to understand the background terms before figuring out how this applies to the question. I am hoping this will also get into how to successfully frac multiple laterals simultaneously.


Rockman
03/19/17 03:43:06PM @rockman:

Look under Cabot's presentations - believe it was posted in the past 30-60 days


Kagay
03/20/17 10:42:30AM @kagay:

Rockman - found it; thanks. That, along with the previously mentioned Halliburton article ( http://www.halliburton.com/public/pe/contents/Papers_and_Articles/web/Q_through_Z/world-oil-evans-shale-tech.pdf ) give me a decent idea of what you are talking about. Some of the well layouts mentioned in the last article which the author uses to prove the merits of using diverter agents, look almost identical to what our operator is proposing. How these agents actually redirect fracking energy to level out it's distribution among the perfs and clusters or to accomplish other purposes where offset wells are concerned, is still a bit of a mystery to me. Glad you brought it up though as I had no idea of it's existence.

Do you have an opinion as to the feasible expectations of percent recovery of oil in place with these and other new methods?


Rockman
03/20/17 11:22:25AM @rockman:

I have seen references to recovery factors in stimulated rock volumes as high as 20%.

Look up SLB's "HiWay" frac - this is another diverter agent that has been widely written up in SPE and other technical publications

 very


Kagay
03/20/17 12:14:33PM @kagay:

Thanks again. Found it. Amazing. You believe that even the more "stodgy" operators are fully engaged with these practices now? (ie, the norm for all operators, and not the exception?)

I noticed the blurb on re-stimulating existing wells with this technology to improve recovery. Maybe the next phase after saturating the available lease space with new laterals in areas considered "sweet" - go back and improve the existing wells. Wondered previously if that was going to be feasible at some point. Looks like it may be, or at least is being considered. (or is just being advertised by those that stand to make a buck)


Rick Gravesmill
03/20/17 08:42:07PM @rick-gravesmill:

Sundance Energy just recently refracked five wells in McMullen county with mixed results.


Kagay
03/20/17 09:10:12PM @kagay:

All on the same lease? Closely spaced laterals? Diverter agents used? No increase at all on some? Were the reasons for the good and the bad made known to you?


Rick Gravesmill
03/21/17 10:07:39PM @rick-gravesmill:

If you google Sundance Energy and look at their reports, they talk about the refracting. It was on five different wells. All of them improved but some were nominal and others were quite a bit. They did a deal with Schlumberger to pay them out of the additional production. It did increase their EUR's.


Kagay
03/21/17 10:26:26PM @kagay:

Saw it, thanks. 54% increase, new formation rock claimed. Sound about average for this type of work?

By the way, and off the beaten path from the subject discussion (my fault), but when an operator/sub claims 54% increase when refracking, what does that mean exactly? The existing well was producing 2000 bbls/mo., and now is producing a little over 3000? (but still declining) Or, that they have fracked new formation, or bettered the existing fracture, and the EUR will now jump from 6% to over 9%, for example? (possibly a big difference)


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